1. Irungu Kangata Irungu Kangata Kenya says:

    I am a Kenyan, Black African lawyer. I am a black nationalist, in fact, a Rastafarian - a religion drawing inspiration from ultra-black nationalists like Garvey.

    Does Culture play any part in IQ assessment? This study is not very clear on that. I think it does. Probably Blacks IQ is low because there does not exists a universal Black culture (e.g a black religion or political thought system which has existed over many years and probably imposed to other societies) as opposed to the other races. Take religion. Christianity, though not originally from Europe is basically a white religion;Islam is  Arab;Hindu is Asian etc.

    Personally, I tend to agree that the black race has a problem though I am not sure whether it is genetic. This is because in all societies in the world, blacks are committing vices at a higher rate compared to other races(even to their very own). Secondly, We do not have a single black nation which is showing any potentiality of prospering in the near future.But most pathetic, blacks' level of assimilation by the cultures of other people is pathetic. Blacks have  adopted  the negative aspects of the other people's culture to their own detriment. Blacks tend to blame whites for their underdevelopment,but they are not offering any resistance to that perceived domination (intellectual or  even physical like what Alqueda are doing presently). I was astonished to find that the rates of black-to-black crime, divorces,abortion and extra-marital fertility  are highest amongst all other American ethnic groups.In Africa,our governments have aligned themselves with the west in all international issues;every domestic discourse   is justified by a quotation of the West. The Black youth are not interested in serious issues of politics or economics but watching European soccer. In fact, I suspect that probably,at this rate, black race with its multitude of problems will be wiped out. I understand in the US, Latinos have now overtaken Blacks in terms of population.

    The East Asians, Indians and some modern Arabic counties like UAE and Kuwait  have maintained their unique cultures and this probably explains their present economic ascent.Well,we do not have a cross-cutting authentic African culture to fall back to but I am convinced that Blacks should endeavor to mould a unique,progressive culture (that is scientific) which is disengaged or independent from the West to stimulate an economic and social take-off.

    Irungu, Kenya.

    • Patrick Patrick Australia says:

      They are some very thought provoking ideas that you wrote Irungu. The entire discussion is very interesting, although I think some of the posters are a little shrill in their opinions.

      I also would agree that there must be some genetic basis for intelligence and that it would probably vary depending on race. I think that it is a difficult thing for many people to accept calmly though, as it has many implications.

    • Watanabe Watanabe Japan says:

      I agree. Maybe the solution is to stop adopting other thought systems and make your own. Like East Asians have a culture of only the highest achievement. I'm sure if we see a powerful culture like that develop in Africa we might see drastic changes. All I see in Africa right now is a poor culture of corruption and violence.

    • trevor kidd trevor kidd Canada says:

      I would add that the problem of IQ gaps is largely genetic due to environmental and evolutionary factors over the last 60,000 years. It is well established that modern humans evolved  in Africa around 200k years ago. Those proto-moderns that left the more stable and warm climate of Africa and slugged it out in Ice-age Europe have these extreme environments to thank for their propensity for higher AVERAGE intelligence. Pressure to survive exceedingly long Ice-age winters selected for the truly hardy and bright among the limited survivors. It was natural selection that helped "over-represent" the survivors with sharp minds, the dull never had a chance(they would have not been able to cope with -40 winters and little food). Of note,  4% of non-African DNA is neanderthal. I think the mutations and selective forces allowed more of the ancient homo-sapiens in Ice-age Europe and Asia to unconsciously select for intelligence, instead of their ability to dance or for bravery. To assume the Human brain stopped evolving 50-100k years ago, makes absolutely no sense, especially since mankind was extremely isolated and small in number in the relevant time period.  One must remember our own emergence from the jungles to the more challenging African Savannah allowed us to evolve at a rapid rate, while our closest relatives, chimpanzees,  remained MUCH CLOSER to our common ancestor. The same evolutionary pressures that  allowed our brains to quintuple in size over chimps in Africa are the same conditions that caused a minor, but significant split in humanity from those who remained in less-challenging environments, to those who survived and prospered in difficult ones  

      I realize this isn't exactly politically correct, but it does seem to make sense. Had the climates of Europe and Asia been similar to Africa 100k years ago to the present time, there would likely be far less difference between races as we see now (perhaps none) To bury ones head in the sand and stifle the debate not to offend anyone, actually is offensive to those who seek the truth. Maybe then we can help African countries more effectively if we know WHY they are the way they are instead of ignoring the actual problems

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